07-07-2009 Regular MeetingCity of Clermont
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The meeting of the Planning & Zoning Commission was called to order Tuesday July 7, 2009 at 7:01
p.m. by Chairman David Pape. Other members present were Bill Banzhaf, Bernadette Dubuss, Nick
Jones, Cuqui Whitehead and Judy Proli. Also in attendance were Barbara Hollerand, City Planner, Curt
Henschel, City Planner, Dan Mantzaris, City Attorney, and Rae Chidlow, Administrative Assistant.
MINUTES of the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held June 2, 2009 were approved as
written.
REPORTS
There were no reports.
1. REQUEST FOR A LARGE SCALE COMP PLAN AMENDMENT
City planner Barbara Hollerand stated that this first item is a transmittal of an administrative large-scale
comprehensive plan amendment. She stated that Florida Statutes require cities to adopt a water supply
facilities work plan. She said a draft of the plan was not complete in March when the rewrite of the
comprehensive plan was transmitted for review. She stated that the City is transmitting the plan as a
separate amendment along with a text change to the Potable Water Element that references the plan.
Ms. Hollerand stated that at the request of the Florida Department of Community Affairs, the St. Johns
River Water Management District has received an early draft of the plan prior to the formal review next
month. She stated that late this afternoon, the city received a comments letter from St. Johns that
included the following:
• One of these was the need for the City to provide better linkages between both the data in the
water supply plan and the data and policies in the City's recently adopted comprehensive plan
and to correct some inconsistencies between the two plans.
• In other comments, the District asked that the City ensure that the data in the water supply plan is
consistent with data the City had submitted to the District as part of the City's modification to its
consumptive use permit.
~ The District asked that the City provide more specifics on existing agreements that affect water
supply planning-such as those with Lake Utilities and with the Lake County Water Alliance.
• Finally, the District asked for additional data to demonstrate that the City can provide adequate
water supply to meet water demand through 2020.
Ms. Hollerand stated that staff will take the water management district's comments and incorporate
them into the water supply plan prior to the City Council transmittal hearing on July 28. She stated that
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because of the close proximity to residential uses, any range noise should be inaudible from the adjacent
properties.
Mr. Henschel stated that there is one variance for an interior wall to exceed the six-foot height limit.
Mr. Henschel stated that the applicant has worked very closely with staff to address concerns and
complete a site plan for the CUP. He stated that because of the proximity to residential land to the west
and to McKinney Park and Clermont Elementary School, the staff cannot recommend approval of this
indoor gun range use, at this location.
Brian Denham, 2670 Eagle Lake Dr., stated that the concerns about the residential, school and noise are
not a concern in his opinion. He stated the staff report describes it as adjacent to residential, but it also
mentions that the surrounding zoning districts are commercial. He stated that there is a vacant piece of
property owned by the city behind the property that will be used for a road. He stated that there is
another piece of property that has been abandoned. He stated there is no residential directly behind this
project. He stated that there is another gun store planned for the Wetzel property which is also near a
residential area. He stated the school proximity is about 800 feet away. He showed the Commission
where other stores that sell guns are, which is about the same proximity to schools as this location will
be. He stated that the city has asked for them to extend Desoto Street to Highway 27, and the owner is
agreeable to that if it means getting approval for this project. He stated that by extending the road it will
open it up for more traffic going to the school. He stated that the gun range will be underground due to
the hills; there will be thick walls and other sound attenuation devices so the guns will not be heard.
David Heck, 16139 S.R. 50, he stated that he feels the concern is safety. He stated that they are
designing this range with 12 lanes for rifle rated. He stated that the difference is in apistol-rated-only
building you have baffles because you are firing from a fixed position down range and those baffles will
prohibit any bullets from hitting the ceiling. He stated there will be a ballistic steel curtain to keep any
bullet from hitting the roof of the building. He stated the sides of the building will be constructed with
block or concrete with 6000 psi to prevent any bullet from escaping from the sides. He stated that there
are rubber back stops that will keep the bullet from hitting a solid object so the bullet will stay intact and
there will be no articulation of the bullet. He stated that another safety factor is all the glass in the front
of the building will be bullet proof. He stated that he is taking every step possible to make the range as
safe as possible.
Bob Thompson, 1958 Brantley Circle, stated that they will be building the building for Mr. Heck. He
stated that if anyone was going to build a site that is safe it would be Mr. Heck.
Commissioner Whitehead stated that she has issues with guns. She stated that selling guns is different
than having a gun range. She feels this is not a good area for this type of facility.
Commissioner Proli asked if he has applied for this type of use before in Clermont.
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Mr. Heck stated that there are 12 lanes so up to 12 people at one time can shoot. He stated that you will
not shoot in the range without going through a safety class first. He stated that you will have to have an
annual pass in order to get into the gun range. He stated that he is not sold on rental guns.
Commissioner Banzhaf stated that his concern is security of the parking lot. He stated that he would not
like to see Desoto Street extended to keep less traffic from coming around that area.
Commissioner Whitehead asked how the property will be accessed from Highway 27.
Mr. Henschel stated that they can enter and exit directly onto Highway 27, and they will also be able to
access the property as an entrance only through the Twistee Treat.
Chairman Pape explained the experience he has had with the gun range he visits. He stated that he does
not feel there will be safety issues with the amount of off duty police officers that will be visiting the
range.
Commissioner Jones moved to approve the request for the Conditional Use Permit, seconded by
Commissioner Banzhaf. The vote was S-1 to recommend for approval to City Council with
Commissioner Whitehead opposing.
3. REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
OWNER: New Beginnings of Lake County, Inc. (purchasing July `09)
APPLICANT: New Beginnings of Lake County, Inc.; Steve Smith
REQUESTED ACTION: Request for a CUP to allow a Transition Home for single mothers in the
CBD Zoning District.
LOCATION: 915 W. Montrose St. (Mulberry Inn)
EXISTING ZONING: CBD, Central Business District
EXISTING LAND USE: Vacant retail/Office and Bed & Breakfast
City planner Curt Henschel stated that the applicant intends to establish a transition home for single
mothers at the site of the old Mulberry Inn. He stated that the site will consist of eight (8) living areas
and one for a full time resident manager. He stated that there are three buildings on site that will be
utilized for this new use.
Mr. Henschel stated that the use is explained in the attached application. He stated that this is a 9-month
structured faith based program that provides transitional housing for mothers with children (max. 3
children and max. 10 years old, per mother) who have lost their job and home, and need assistance to
recover. He stated that other services will include food, clothes, professional counseling, case
management, life & job training skills and job placement opportunities.
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they earn money and spend money. He stated the women will probably spend money in the downtown
area because most likely initially they will not have vehicles.
Charlene Forth, 939 W. Desoto Street, stated that she does not have a problem with this project. She
stated that after polling the neighborhood there were only two neighbors who had problems with the
project because they did not want a shelter. She stated that she feels Mr. Smith has done a wonderful
job with the men's shelter. She stated there are code issues on that property. She stated that her concern
is that the staff report states that they can have up to 8 women and up to 3 children each. She stated that
means there could be 8 women and 24 children staying at this location so now it is an intense use. She
stated that when Ms. Lacek came before the Board and Council, one of the concerns was whether there
was going to be any people staying overnight. She stated that they need to limit the amount of women
and children that can stay.
Karen Maxwell, 180 Orange Ave., asked how many bathrooms will be in this location.
Mr. Radtke stated he does not have the exact number but does not believe there are 9 bathrooms in this
facility.
Ms. Maxwell asked where will the women be reacculamating from. Are they coming from drug rehab
or prison.
Mr. Radtke stated that this is not a drug rehab and they will not be coming from prison. He stated they
have become homeless due to economic conditions. He stated they have a men's home which is
successful. He stated they had 15 men of which 12 have gone back into the community and are
working; the other 3 are still struggling and are out of the program. He stated that the numbers of 8
women with no more than 3 children are a maximum number. He stated that they have to go through a
lengthy evaluation to get into the program.
Paul Lacek, 160 Nautica Mile Drive, asked where 24 kids are going to play.
Mr. Radtke stated that it is a good size property. He stated that mothers are responsible for their
children. He stated that while there is not a lot of room, they are not running a day camp for the
children. He stated that it is a structured program for the children as well as for the mothers. He stated
there maybe little amount of playtime, and much more structure through a 9 month program. He stated
it is not for playtime although they are children and they will play.
Mr. Lacek asked if it is going to be one bedroom for a mother and up to 3 children
Mr. Radtke stated that yes that is how it is going to be.
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they have no money for childcare. He stated they are offering a hand up not a hand out. He stated that it
is a 9 month program.
Commissioner Proli asked if a playground area will be provided for the children.
Mr. Radtke stated that he cannot answer exactly where the play area will be, but there are several parks
close by for the children to play.
Commissioner Whitehead stated that she works for property management and she has to turn people
down every day for rental property. She stated these are not people on welfare on purpose, only because
of economic times. She read the list provided stating that these women will be referred through
churches, South Lake Hospital, Lake County Sheriff, Salvation Army and local case workers. She
stated it states they will be drug tested. She asked if transportation will be provided for the women.
Mr. Radtke stated that they will provide transportation.
Commissioner Whitehead moved to approve the request for the Conditional Use Permit, seconded by
Commissioner Dubuss. The vote was 4-1 to recommend for approval to City Council with
Commissioner Proli opposing and Commissioner Banzhaf abstaining.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 8:37
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