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RMLAR AND 'TOWN HALL MEETING
A combined Regular City Council. Meeting and Town Hall Meeting wan hold in
the Jenkins Auditorium on Tuesday, January 22, 1980. Prior to formal, opening
of the meeting, Mayor. Smoak announced the preoonce of State RoproaantaLJ.vo
Everette Kell.y, who had stopped by briefly on his way to address a group in
Lake Panasoffkee. Mayor. Smoak prefaced his introduction of the Representative
by advising that without his very strong help, and in conjunction with that of
Senator Vince Fechtel, we would not have been able to delete from the Green
Swamp Designated Area of Critical State Concern, those lands which were ro-
moved. Representative Kelly responded that Mayor Smoak was indeed a champion
in fighting government bureaucracy. Iie apologized for the brief stop, but ad-
vised he desired to apprise all present of his open door and cooperative office
and staff in Tavares, and to urge that they be contacted if they could be of
any help to the citizenry.
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Mayor Smoak formally opened the meeting at 7:40 P.M. with the following members
present: Councilmen Thomas, Byrd, Meginley, and Cole. Other officials present
were: City Manager Forbes, City Attorney Baird, City Clerk Carroll, and finance`!
Director Saunders.
The invocation was offered by Councilman Byrd, followed by repeating of the
Pledge of Allegiance in unison by all present.
The Minutes of the Regular Meeting held on January 8, 1980 were approved as
written.
Mayor Smoak advised of the various public offices and regulatory agencies who
have been so very cooperative and helpful in the City's quest to resolve its
water and sewer system problems, and he recognized the following officials
who were present: Mr. Richard Kinney, Executive Assistant to Senator Lawton
Chiles; Mr. J.P.Mayer, Executive Assistant to Representative Richard Kelly;
Messrs. Glenn Middleton, Glen Burhans, and Jim Carson of the Lake County
Commission; Chairman Al Marshall,and member Mr. Bob Ray, of the Lake County
Water Authority; Mr. Gil Sands of the Lake County Pollution Control Board;
and, Mr. Chris ford, Attorney for the Lake County Commission.
PURPOSE OF THE MEETING
80-17 Mayor Smoak announced the purpose of the meeting was to discuss the
extensive water and sewer system improvements with which the City is
faced, and the proposed methods for financing. LIe advised that one
of the major contributing factors necessitating such improvements
had been the fast growth rate in the community; That the City had
increased in population since 1970 from 3400 to just under 6000;
That for the first seven years of this decade, the population had
increased at an average compounded annual growth rate of 5%, the
last two years at a rate of 7% and 8%, a growth much faster than
anyone had anticipated:
Mayor Smoak announced that the first topic to be discussed was that
of the City's water system, and he advised that over the past several
years the City had lost three water wells due to their high coliform
bacteria level that was caused from contamination seeping into the
upper levels of the Floridan Aquifer; That this problem was not unique
to the City, but rather was delineated geographically from Lady Lake
on the north to Haines City on the south; That certain areas in the
City were experiencing cloudy, rusty, sandy, and just generally not
acceptable Clermont type water; That the City was below the minimum
fire requirements for water flow; and, That following a comprehensive
study of the City's water system, the City's Engineers had proposed
improvements to alleviate these problems in a five stage construction
project with an immediate need for additional water producing capacity,
increased storage facilities, and additional larger transmission lines.
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PROPOSED WATER SYS'1'SM Ih1pR0VI;MI:;N'1'S
Mr. Laud Sampson Of SpringsLQQd r Associatas, the City's ConsuJ.Ling
P:ngincer.s, presented an oral. and slide .review of the proposed .imp
provements to the Ci.ty's water system. Mr. Sampson advised thatfor
the past year they had boon involved in making a study of the City's
water. system, which was concluded and a report submitted in October;
That as a result of their study, it was determined that the City has
an adequate supply of good potable water in the Floridan Aquifer;
That the City has two good working wells, each in a range of 1500
gallons per minute, and an additional three wells that are not being
utilized as tests had proven them to be in the so called polluted
upland; That the distribution system is badly in need of updating
as there are approximately 47 miles of pipe in the City with 21 miles
Of it being 2" or less in size, it being a well known fact that 2"
water mains arc almost unaccountable for a City, for a water system;
That these smaller lines have helped in creating the turbidity and
dirty and rusty water problems that are prevalent throughout many areas
of the City, the reason for that being, that with the use of the water
up to practically the capacity of the supply of the present wells to
supply them, the velocities in these small lines are so high that they
scour off the pieces of rust, dirt, etc. that may be clinging to them
thereby causing a discoloration of the water; That some of the pipes
in the distribution system are 50 years old, which is not an advanced
age for some types, but which is old age for galvanized iron that much
of the City s 2" or less lines are.
Mr. Sampson advised their study had revealed an immediate need for
three major items, these being storage, a new well, and new transmission'
mains; That for the storage, they are recommending construction of a
500,000 gallon elevated tank which would be set at the same level as
the existing 10o,000 tank; That for the well, they are recommending a
new 1500 gallon per minute well immediately, with a future recommendation:
of another like well, and, for the transmission mains, they are re-
commending larger size mains to be tied together with existing mains
to create a single system for the entire City; That presently the City
is on two pressure systems that are interconnected yet act independ-
ently of each other,whereas with a single system all of the water wells
would be pumping into the same system providing a much need flexibility
in the event of a well breakdown or natural disaster; That major con-
andsidethelstorage, to obtainthe
whati design
ha Pipe lines, the supply,
good fire ,
the system that is being proposed will supply a fire flow inoexcesstof
the domestic flow, a flow of 2000 gallons per minute in commercial, !j
industrial, and school areas, and 600 gallons per minute in the rest of i
the City.
Via a slide presentation of schematic diagrams of the Cit
P g system, Mr. Sampson pointed out the two in existing
the low pressure area being the western pressure systems in the City,
part of the City from Lake
Avenue westward, the elevated tank being located at the Lake Avenue
well site and the well being the Seminole well on 12th Street, and, the
other pressure area being the eastern portion of the City with the
elevated tank at the Highland Avenue well site and the well being the
he
isathatnd lihat tye of nter- connections hway well. He pbetween lained tit are bdifficultlem withtand have to beystem
due to a 27' difference between the over -flow elevations of the two
tanks. Inquiry was made by Mr. Paul Hobensack as to installation of
pressure reducers to take care of the problem, to which Mr. Sampson re- i
sponded that it would be very difficult as it would require complicated
controls and altitude valves in conjunction with the pressure reducers,
and would result in over -flowing tanks.
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Mr.. Sampson explained that good ongi.nocr.ing practice in fire flow
roqui.ron that a donirod fire flow is obta.i.ncd with the best producing
we,].l, out of service, That with tho two existing systems, there is ono
wall on each one, another woll. on each one that is in the polluted
aroa so that if the boat• well on each system is knocked out of service,
the result would be almost nil. as the other two wells are approximately
only 750 gallons per minute, That by hooking the two systems together,
all the sources of supply will meet anyplace within the City, and they
thereby propose to install a new tank at the same elevation of the
Highland Avenue tank in order that both tanks would flow on the line;
That with the addition of another well to the system that would serve
the whole of the City, a demand of 2000 gallons per minute fire flow
could be satisfied for 5 hours with the best producing well out of
service. Ila advised that the aforementioned is a general schematic of
the proposed first construction that is required; That he would also
say that the proposed deeper pipe lines would not necessarily, at this
point, answer all the problems in the City, but rather are major trans-
mission pipe lines which are necessary to convey the water at the same
rate all over the City.
Mr. Sampson further advised that in Phase I, the new elevated tank is
proposed to be located on Highland Avenue just east of Bloxam, such
location having been picked from topographical maps rather than from
specific pieces of land, and that a 12" line would be installed to
connect that tank into the present 12" line at Bloxam and Highland
that comes down from the Grand Highway well; That a 12" line to be
installed crossing Highway 50 at 12th Street was also included in Phase
I in order to have it completed prior to a proposed configuration of
that intersection by DOT, but since the timing of DOT's proposed con-
struction had been changed since their report was concluded, this portion
may or may not be included in Phase I; That Phase II basically is a
12" transmission main from the Seminole Well to the Highland tank, and
a new well in the general area of between Sunnyside and Lake Winona
which would be tied into the existing system; and, That proposed in
Phase III are 8" lines which form a main transmission system through
the business area north of Highway 50, and between the transmission
line south of Highway 50 to the existing main on Lake Shore Drive. He
concluded his presentation by opining that with the monies Council felt
could be made available at this time, that considerable improvements
to the kind of water, the amount of water, and the fire flow desired,
could be realized.
Inquiry was made from the floor as to whether or not a decision had
been made for instigation of the water improvements, or if they were
still being considered as a proposal. Mayor Smoak advised that City
Council had voted to try to secure funding to implement Phases I, II,
and III, and it is their intent to move forward with the improvements
as proposed.
PROPOSED SEWER SYSTEM IMPROVEMENTS
Mayor Smoak gave a brief review of the City's sanitary sewer system
advising that the treatment plant was constructed in 1972, the plant
was located at its present site, the polishing ponds were dug to handle
the effluent, based on an engineering study by the most imminent soils
people in Central Florida, but by December of 1972, it was recognized
and realized that the polishing ponds were not going to adequately
handle it; That consequently from that time, the City had been investi-
gating many things in an attempt to solve the ultimate problem of
effluent disposal.
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Mayor, Smoak Lhoroupon inLr0d000d Dr. John Zoltol, from Lila University
of Plor.ida V7nllimidn Heneareh Center in order to Loll what he has done
in Clermont Lrying to aldross the problem of effluent disposal.
in order to give a br.iuf: background as to how he got involved in
woLl.and research, Dr. Zoltck related that he had graduated in 1960
with a Bachelor of Civil. Engineering degree, wont on to Pasadena,
California where he obL•ained a Master's degree in Environmental
Engineering, worked for a number of yoa.rs then went back to school
and graduated in 1972 with a Doctorate in Environmental Engineering,
specializing in Aquatic Chemistry and Wastewater Treatment-, and has
boon associated with the Department of Environmental Engineering
Sciences at L•he University or Florida over since.
Dr. Zoltok advised of a call from Mayor Smoak about four and one-half
years ago at which Limo he said lie had read a report on some work that
he had done at the University through the Wetlands Center concerning
wetlands disposal for the City of Wildwood. Dr. Zoltck explained that
the situation in Wildwood was that they had a trickling filter plant,
which is a pile of rocks with a rotating arm, and the arm had rusted
out and the wastewater, after primary settling,was going through the
rocks and being dumped into an open ditch where it meandered hither
and fro and eventually worked its way into a wetlands area which was
a swamp of trees; That the State Department of Environmental Regulation
was concerned because only five miles away was Lake Panaso£fkee, the
lowest part of land where this water eventually worked its way, and
they wanted Wildwood to go to advanced waste treatment for their new
treatment system, which would mean doubling in cost. Iie advised his
research team went out into the wetlands area and examined the treat-
ment capability of the area, and their findings had shown rather con-
clusively that in a relative short distance, depending on the time of
year, that the wastewater reached background levels; and, That it was
their published report on that study that Mayor Smoak had read. He
said that Mayor Smoak expressed an interest in a similar type of study
for the City of Clermont except that the wetlands was not a wetlands
with trees, but rather a swamp with weeds, a marsh area. Dr.Zoltek re-
lated that it took about 17 months to go through the necessary regula-
tory agencies to get the permits in order to do the marshland study,
and about 3 years ago to the day, the study was begun completely with
local funding.
Dr. Zoltck advised that the research marsh is located at approximately
the NW part of town near a small dug -out stream that connects Lake
Palatlakaha with Lake Hiawatha, and in close proximity with the treatment;)
plant and the polishing ponds; That they built a walkway of some 1000
plus feet from the percolation ponds and installed four one-half acre
plots that were constructed in such a way with fiber glass panels glued
together that the water could not leave, and had a pipe running down
the center where the very high quality secondary effluent was sprayed
out onto the surace of the peat or in the sandy water; That the first
year of the study, which unfortunately was one of the driest years in
Central Florida, but which turned out to be fortunate in that the study
was extended, but had also given them the worst possible condition that
could be expected in the future; That they took a chance and decided to
continue the study another 15 months hoping that the water levels would,
rise, which they did; That what actually happens is that whether there
is standing water or not, the panels do a very effective job in isolating.
the marsh so that the water sprayed on the surface percolated down'
vertically through the peat,which is about 5' in depth, into a saturated
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sand .layer., and the nand Layer., ona way or another connoctod with
the existing ground water In tile lalcoa; ThaL oxactly how thin happened
and Layer. that wan
is not known, but it in known that thin was the nF
intended to carry away the water from the percolation ponds; That i.t
was known from past experience that peat does a very good job on ab-
sorbing quite a lot of material, so they were relatively certain of n
very good modian on which to absorb most of the phosphorus that was
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in the wastewater; That the plots had a number of walls in them, the
reason for wells was because it was known the water wan being forced
down vertically, and they wanted to know what the concentrations would
be, both in the bottom of the peat and in the sand, so with medium
depth and also deep wells both inside the toot plots and outside in 1
the background areas, they knew what was going on in the general area;
That the major conclusion found from the study was that the nitrogen
is almost completely removed to background levels in this enclosed
type of marsh, but that they also feel very strongly that if it were
not enclosed, the nitrogen removal would be very high and create no
problem; That the phosphorus at that time was 8.72 milligrams per liter,
forcing it through the peat and getting a very good absorption and re-
moval, and that this was in the high loading plot that was being sprayed;
with 4" per week; That in their study, they were recommending 1 1/2"
per week which would cut down the surface water concentration very
markedly; That in addition to this phosphorus removal, the City had
recently undertaken the use of iron sulphate to control sulphide odors
in sewers and remove phosphorus from the treatment plant which had re- '
sulted in a drop to between 1 and 1 1/2 parts per million, but which
he felt could be dropped even further to below 1 part per million with
a closer control and a spray of 1 1/2" per week; That their examination
of a 1 1/2" per week plot had concluded there would be very minimal
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ecological changes inside the marsh, and would do a very good nitrogen
removal job and also a reasonably good phosphorus removal job.
Dr. Zoltek concluded his presentation by advising that marshlands for
wastewater treatment is a viable alternative that can be looked into
as it is the most economical way; That they had wanted to examine the
best way for removing nitrogen and phosphorus, and had concluded that
forcing them through the peat layer is undoubtedly the best way to do
it.
Inquiry was made by Mr. Bob Johnstone if the peat removal process was
an on -going operation for 25 or 30 years, or would it become over-
loaded and no loncter effective. Dr. Zoltek responded that, in terms
of nitrogen, they show conclusively that the nitrogen is first oxidized
portion of
to nitrates and then de -nitrified to nitrogen gas, a small
it taken up in the plant tissues that stay in the peat, the majority
of it leaving as nitrogen gas which would create no pollution problem
whatsoever; That over the 30 months of testing they found no decrease
in uptake of phosphorus through the peat; and, That it was his personal
belief that it would be effective up to 15 years with a spray of 1 1/2"
per week as recommended so as not to overload it.
Inquiry was made by Mr. Bob Markland as to the area size that would be
necessary to take care of the City's effluent by this method. Dr.Zoltek
responded that it would depend on the loading rate and how it would be
distributed, but for a .6 mgd disposal, approximately 103 acres would
be necessary.
Inquiry was made by Mr. Paul Line as to a forseeable virus problem
with this type of disposal, and Dr. Zoltek responded that his researchers
had been exposed to it daily over the 30 months of study with no health
problems whatsoever, and he did not feel that would be a concern at all.
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Purther inquiry was mado by Mr.. Line if the proposod marshland
area lying south of Highway 50 that is being considered for Line
is owned by the City or would always be controlled by the City.
Mayor. Smoak responded that :it is owned by Lake County; 'L'hat 'Lake
County will not make a decision based on the City's request to
lease the property for $1 per year until such time as the regulatory
agencies have made a firm decision on whether or not the alternative
which has been discussed will be permitted. Mr. Line then inquired
if Mayor Smoak felt the County would keep it from future development,
and he responded that he did not believe that the marsh would ever
be drained for development-, that it would always remain as a marsh.
Referring to a recent newspaper article stating that the proposed
marshland area would be diked, Mrs. Rosemary Young inquired as to
the necessity for that. Mayor Smoak advised that one of the parameters
of the report is to force the effluent down through the peat to effect
the highest phosphorus removal, and in order to meet that parameter
in the design concept, a dike would be constructed to prevent free
flow and interchange of surface water between the treated effluent
and the standing water outside the treated area to force it if it got
out of the impounded area to go through the muck. Mrs. Young queried
the advisability of thus restricting some 100 plus acres of marsh which'
ecologists feel is very valuable. Mayor Smoak inquired of Dr. Zoltek
that if the area is diked, would it in fact destroy that 100 plus acres,
from the standpoint of it no longer being a functional marsh, to which
he responded that it definitely would not, that it would still be a
marsh and probably would look more like a marsh than the rest of the
area, particulary during dry years because there would constantly be
water put out there. He further explained that in diking 100 plus acres
of marsh, the ecology would be changed slightly, but any time a new
house or street is constructed the ecology is changed slightly. Mayor
Smoak inquired that if the area is delineated with a dike and the eff-
luent is forced through the peat to the sand layer, could the nutrients
surface somewhere underneath that dike in another place, and Dr. Zoltek
replied he could not see this as a problem at all due to the deep sand
layer and its high capability of absorption. Mayor Smoak inquired as
to the effect on the standing water and the ecology of the marsh in the
event of exceedlingly high water coming into the area such as a back-
to-back hurricane and the dike were to be destroyed, and Dr. Zoltek
opined that such occurrence would not affect the marsh anymore than
what the rest of the marsh would be affected, that there would be no
health problem resulting from the dike being destroyed. Mayor Smoak
then inquired if it could potentially adversely affect the water quality,
in the lakes, and Dr. Zoltek opined that in the event of such a hurri-
cane where there would be an awfully large run-off from streets, trees
knocked down, etc. that would more than over -balance the effect of the
small amount of nutrients coming from the wastewater. Mayor Smoak in-
quired of Dr.Zoltek's opinion as to this system working in such a way
as to not jeopardize the lake system, the public health, and the eco-
logical inter -actions in the marsh, and Dr. Zoltek advised his pro-
fessional judgement would be a 90 to 95 per cent chance of it working
successfully, the only hesitation being in case he had over -looked
something in the research.
_._____..Mayor Smoak advised that the five parameters that were set by the
research study which would encompass 103 acres west of the City and
south of Highway 50, was presented to the Lake County Pollution Control"
Board on January 14th at which time no action was taken in order that
further communication might be made with the researchers.
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PROPOSIsD FUNDING
City Manager. Foncs advised that the estimated cost for the pro-
posed first three phases of the water improvements at $1.5 million
which would require an annual payment of $89,000; That a pro-
liminary application for a loan from Farmers Home Administration
had been approved for $1.5 million over a 40 year period at 59
interest; That if the loan is accepted, the utility rate for water
would be increased $1 per month, and the sewer rate would be in-
creased approximately $2.20 per month to account for the loss of
subsidy to the sewer system from the General Fund, which would be
utilized in the $89,000 annual payment for the water improvements.
Mr. Forbes advised of the difficulty in discussing the sewer system
improvement costs inasmuch as the final method had not been determined,
but he advised of the following costs for comparison of the three
alternatives:
Marshland Treatment: Construction Costs @ $800,000
Operating Costs @ $3.10 per day
Landspreading: Construction Costs @ $1,400,00
Operating Costs @ $29.00 per day
Advanced Waste
Treatment: Construction Costs @ $2,500,000
Operating Costs @ $89.90 per day
He further advised that in addition to the $2.20 per month increase
in the sewer rate due to the water improvements, it would be necessary
to additionally increase the monthly sewer rate by $1.45 for the -
marshland alternative, $2.50 for landspreading, and $4.52 for advanced
waste treatment. He explained however, of an excellent chance in ob-
taining federal grant fund monies for such improvements, and if these
were received, these increases would be reduced.
Inquiry was made by Mr. Arthur Everly as to the annual cost today of
operating the existing sewer system, and Mr. Forbes advised it is
approximately $362,000 for the entire system.
Mayor Smoak advised that every effort has, and is, being made to re-
ceive any funding that is available; That help has been solicited
from Senators Stone and Chiles and Congressman Kelly, and he thereupon
recognized Messrs. Kinney and Mayer who have been actively involved
in assisting the City with FMHA funding and EPA grant funding.
Mr.Kinney advised that he was present recently when Mayor Smoak had
met with Senator Chiles to discuss FMHA and EPA funding, and that the
Senator did commit to assisting the City where he could with that ad-
ministrative process. He further advised that his presence at this -meet-
ing was to listen to the presentations on the proposed improvements,
which he felt had been very impressive, and that he felt the Senator
would be very interested in his report on them.
Mr.Mayer related that Mayor Smoak had written Congressman Kelly several
weeks prior regarding the studies and the presentations that were to be
given, and after having listened to them, he was very much impressed with,:
the answers as offered in treating somewhat mundane problems; That he felt
Mayor Smoak is to be commended for discovering such an approach and bring-
ing it to the attention of the people in the area, which it undoubtedly,
will lead to great savings and efficiency over the years; That Mayor
Smoak, being a very energetic and agressive fellow, had asked Congressman`
Kelly what he had done for the City of Clermont lately, and an astonish-
ing fact was revealed from a search of their records that the City of
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Clermont had hardly over asked them to do anything, certainly a
groat compliment to the City; That over the yearn tha City has had
the rosolvo and internal renourcos to got along on their own without
governmental assistance, but that in this particular case it is evi-
dent and manifest that the City needs governmental assistance because
of the various changes that have happoned to the well systems in the
City etc., and, That Congressman Holly is doing in every way what he
can to help.
Mayor Smoak extended appreciation for the excellent presentations
and the large number of interested citizens in attendance, and thereupon
adjourned the meeting to a refreshment period served by members of a
local Sorority.