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A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Clermont was held Tuesday,
February 22, 2000 at Jenkins Auditorium. The meeting was called to order at 7:30 p.m.
by. Mayor Turville with the following Council Members present: Council Member Biddle,
Council Member Mullins, Council Member Lamb and Council Member MacLauchlin.
'Other City officials present were City Manager Saunders, City Attorney Guthrie, Finance
Director Van Zile, Planning Director Brown, and Deputy City Clerk Maddox.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was offered by Council Member Mullins followed by the repeating of the
Pledge of Allegiance to the Flag by all present.
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A motion was made by Council Member Biddle, seconded by Council
Member Mullins, and carried unanimously to approve the minutes qf the
regular Council Meeting hem February 8, 2000.
CITY MANAGER SAUNDERS' REPORT
City Manager Saunders stated that Assistant Superintendent of Lake County Schools,
Jerry Cox has invited the City Council Members and citizens to attend the public meeting
on Thursday, February 24, 2000 at Windy Hill Middle School for discussion regarding the
location of the new proposed High School. Mr. Saunders stated that if any Council
Members wish to attend one hour before the meeting there will be a tour of the two
proposed sites for the new school.
City Manager Saunders reminded the Council Members of the Joint Workshop of the
Planning and Zoning Commission and City Council scheduled for 6:30 p.m. on March 9,
2000, at the Highlander Hut.
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CITY ATTORNEY GUTHRIE
No report.
FINANCE DIRECTOR VAN ZILE
No report.
COUNCIL MEMBER BIDDLE
Council Member Biddle thanked the City Manager and Council Members who attended
the Visioning Session sponsored by the Chamber of Commerce, Mainstreet and
Downtown Clermont Partnership.
COUNCIL MEMBER MULLINS
No report.
COUNCIL MEMBER LAMB
Council Member Lamb stated she represents the City on the League of Cities' Ambulance
Selection Committee and they have had several meetings. Ms. Lamb stated there seems
to be a consensus to have one provider to service the entire County versus the two
services the County now has. Council Member Lamb stated there was a strong effort to
get a better response time and better service than we have had in the past.
COUNCIL MEMBER MACLAUCHLIN
No report.
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MAYOR TURVILLE'S REPORT
Mayor Turville stated that he attended the public hearing regarding the ambulance service
and was proud of the strong position the League of Cities took. Mr. Turville stated he
also attended the Solid Waste Advisory Committee on behalf of the League of Cities.
CONSENT AGENDA
Item No. 1-Group Medical Plan Changes-Approval
Item No. 2-Pay Period Changes-Approval
Item No. 3-Chlorine Contact System=Final Change Order
Item No. 4-Plat Approval-Tower Grove
A motion was made by Council Member Biddle, seconded by Council C~ -
Member Lamb, and carried unanimousl_¥ to approve the items listed on theo ~
Consent Agenda.
Mayor Turville asked if any Council Member objected to moving Resolution 1114
forward from the last item on the Agenda to the next item since the majority of the people
present were there regarding this issue. No one objected.
Resolution No. 1114
Rob Ahrens/Kings Ridge
City Manager Saunders stated the Planning and Zoning Commission previously tabled
this and requested more information from the applicant. Mr. Saunders stated that the
applicant, Rob Ahrens has also requested the matter be tabled until the April Planning and
Zoning meeting and first City Council Meeting in April. Mr. Saunders stated that Staff
recommends Resolution No. 1114 be tabled and sent back to the Planning and Zoning
Commission for their review and recommendations to the City Council.
Rob Ahrens stated that Lennar Homes has put together a committee from each of the
neighborhood associations in Kings Ridge and they have requested that representatives
fromLennar sit down with the committee and review the details of the this application to
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modify the professional office and commercial areas. Mr. Ahrens requested this be tabled
until the April City Council meeting.
Planning Director Barry Brown requested the issue be tabled to a "time certain" to avoid
having to re-advertise.
Hal Horowitz requested that the Council Members require that Lennar do no clearing,
grading or construction until this matter comes before them in April.
City Attorney Guthrie stated that the City can table this issue with the condition that any
work at the level they are seeking'which requires a permit not be permitted'until this
matter comes before the Council again.
Rob Ahrens stated that Lennox has two permits in that area now; one for site grading,
infrastructure, utility and parking lot development for the City's new fire station and the
other one is for grading along Hartwood Marsh Road to connect the sewer line to the Lift
Station on Hartwood Marsh Road for the development called Legends. Mr. Ahrens stated
no clearing or grading will be done relating to this application.
Council Member Biddle stated he felt this matter should be tabled to give the developer
an opportunity to work with the committee of citizens and hopefully resolve any
problems.
Marilyn Moore stated she did not understand how the committee members were
selected.
George Hovis stated he represents some citizens of Kings Ridge who oppose this
Resolution and would like to have the matter brought before the Council in March
rather than April so that those citizens who go back up north have an opportunity
to be present.
Ed Mundini stated that when he bought his property three years ago, the
information regarding this commercial property was available.
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Planning and Zoning Commission Member Elaine Renick stated that the applicant
has agreed to provide additional information to the Commission. Ms. Renick
stated she would like this tabled until the Planning and Zoning Commission can
review the additional information and make a recommendation to the City Council.
A motion was made by Council Member Biddle, seconded by Council
Member Lamb, and carried unanimously to table Resolution No. 1114 until
the April 11, 2000 Cit~ Council Meeting (Time Certain).
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VISITORS WITH BUSINESS
Mayor Turville stated that the following issue required a Quasi-Judicial Hearing be held
and that anyone wishing to speak in favor of or in opposition to the requests should be
sworn in.
Herbert and Deborah Liskey
City Clerk Van Zile swore in the following:
Deborah Liskey, 223 S. Lakeview Avenue, Winter Garden, F1
Herbert Liskey, 223 S. Lakeview Avenue, Winter Garden, F1
Lan-y Osteen, 10721 Lakehill Drive, Clermont, F1
Planning Director Brown stated the applicant would like to add a boatlift to an existing
non-conforming boat dock located at 2237 S. Lakeshore Drive. Mr. Brown stated the
existing boat dock extends into the water approximately 45 feet and at approximately 29
feet into the water it crosses over the applicants' riparian property line, into the adjoining
property. Mr. Brown stated the proposed addition is not a further encroachment into the
adjoining property and is not increasing the existing non-conformity. Mr. Brown stated
that a ten foot side yard setback may be allowed upon receipt of properly authorized
documentation from directly abutting property owners and the applicants have written
documentation from the property .owners on either side, stating that they have no
objection to the variance, therefore recommends approval.
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Applicants offered to answer any questions.
Mayor Turville closed the public hearing.
Mayor Turville expressed concern whether residents owning property where their lot
crosses a street with some of their property on the lake side could sell those small lakeside
pieces of property separately.
City Manager Saunders stated that those lakeside potions of a resident's property would
have to be re-platted into separate lots in order to be sold separately from the whole piece
of property and the City's ordinance would not allow that.
A motion was made by Council Member Lamb, seconded bY Council c.9o
Member Mullins, and carried unanimously by roll call vote, to approve the cO q ~
variance request allowing the applicant to add a boatlift to an existing
dock.
Ken Golby
Planning Director Brown stated applicants have withdrawn this variance request.
UNFINSHISHED BUSINESS
Ordinance 390-M-Final Reading
Mayor Turville read Ordinance 390-M by title only.
Mayor Turville stated that this ordinance will amend the City's Comprehensive Plan
recognizing the prior annexation of the Kings Ridge DRI.
Mayor Turville invited anyone wishing to speak regarding this ordinance to come
forward. There were no citizen comments and Mayor Turville referred the ordinance to
the City Council for action.
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A motion was made by Council Member Biddle, seconded by Council
Member Lamb, and carried unanimously by roll call vote to approve
Ordinance 390-M.
Resolution No. 1119
Bob Wade
City Manager Saunders stated that Bob Wade requested that the City officially name the
-- previously unnamed new street that will nm westerly from Citrus Tower Boulevard along
the northern boundary of the Kash N' KanT project extending along the north boundary
of the theater and terminate in a proposed subdivision adjacent to Jack's Lake. Mr.
Saunders stated that if this resolution is adopted the name Hunt Trace Boulevard will be
placed on the Official Map of the City for this section of road and will be assigned to the
future extension running east of Citrus Tower Boulevard to Hancock Road. Mr. Saunders
stated the name has been cleared through Lake County Emergency Services.
A motion was made by Council Member Lamb, seconded by Council
Member Mullins, and carried unanimously to name the previously unnamed
new street Hunt Trace Boulevard.
Resolution No. 1118
Personnel Policy
Mayor Turville read Resolution No. 1118 by title only.
Finance Director Van Zile stated that Resolution 1118 will amend the City's
Personnel Policy and the provisions will primarily incorporate the City's full-time
Fire Fighters that were added to the City staff this past year. Mr. Van Zile stated
these items were discussed at a previous Council Workshop.
,4 motion was made by Council Member Biddle, seconded by Council
Member Lamb, and carried unanimously to adopt Resolution No. 1118
amending the Ci~ 's Personnel Policy.
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School Siting Comprehensive Plan Amendment
City Planner Barbara Hollerand stated this is the transmittal stage of a
Comprehensive Plan Amendment required by the State of Florida. Ms. Hollerand
stated this has been reviewed by the Planning and Zoning Commission and after
this transmittal is reviewed by the Department of Community Affairs the City will
have two adoption hearings in March.
Council Member Lamb stated this will encourage the location of schools to be in
planned urban areas near parks, libraries and community centers to the extent
possible.
A motion was made by Council Member Lamb, seconded by Council
Member MacLauchlin, and carried unanimously to forward the School
Siting Comprehensive Plan Amendment transmittal to the DCA.
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Resolution No. 1111
Immanuel Temple Church
Mayor Turville stated that the following issue required a Quasi-Judicial Hearing be held
and that anyone wishing to speak in favor of or in opposition to the requests should be
sworn in.
Mayor Turville read Resolution No. 1111 by title only.
Planning Director Brown stated the applicant is requesting a conditional use permit
to allow the operation of a church at 792 East Montrose Street. Mr. Brown stated
the parcel was formerly the location of a bar, however the building has been vacant
for many years. Mr. Brown stated that the proposed use is consistent with the land
use designations and the zoning and staff recommends approval.
City Clerk Van Zile sworn in the following:
Pastor Daryl Forehand, 1406 Carver Avenue, Lakeland, Florida
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Pastor Forehand stated Immanuel Temple Church has purchased an existing
building that was formerly a bar and had been empty for several years. Mr.
Forehand stated they have made improvements and will continue to make
improvements to the existing building.
A motion was made by Council Member Lamb, seconded by Council
Member MacLauchlin, and carried unanimously to adopt Resolution No.
1111, granting a conditional use permit_for the operation of a church at
792 East Montrose St.
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Resolution No. 1112
Nay-Nay's Playhouse
Mayor Turville stated that the following issue required a Quasi-Judicial Hearing be held
and that anyone wishing to speak in favor of or in opposition to the requests should be
sworn in.
Mayor Turville read Resolution No. 1112 by title only.
Planning Director Brown stated this is a request for a conditional use permit to
allow the operation of a child care facility for children ages 6-weeks to 12-years
old, located at 1295 West State Road 50 just west of the IGA on the south side of
50. Mr. Brown stated the property has the proper future land use classification and
proper zoning, therefore Staff recommends approval.
City Clerk Van Zile swore in the following:
Renee Lowe, 15527 Kensington Trail, Clermont, Florida
Tara Schultz, 130 East Waldo Street, Groveland, Florida
Renee Lowe requested that the City Council support child care in the community
and stated the other child care facilities have a large waiting list so there is a great
need for child care facilities.
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Mayor Turville asked whether the requirement for the facility to connect to the
City's sewer system should be met before the facility is issued a Certificate of
Occupancy.
Ms. Lowe stated the owner of the building has begun the process already and hired
a company to do the sewer connect. Ms. Lowe stated this hookup requirement
should not keep them from opening at this time as they have a good septic tank
system that accommodates the needs of the facility now. Ms. Lowe stated that
they have agreed to hook up to the sewer system in anticipation of the future
growth of the facility and agreed to that condition which is being worked on now.
Council Member Lamb expressed concern regarding the traffic flow from the
Highway 50 entrance and Ms. Lowe stated they had access from the back side of
the property and the road actually belongs to the property owner. Ms. Lowe stated
the largest majority of their clients come from the Lakeshore Drive area and they
have encouraged the parents to access from 12th Street, turning on the road behind
the IGA.
A motion was made by Council Member Lamb, seconded by Council
Member Biddle, and unanimously approve Resolution No. 1112 granting a
conditional use permit to allow the operation of the chiM care facili_ty.
Resolution No. 1113
Maury L. Carter & Associates/SOLO Development
Mayor Turville stated that the following issue required a Quasi-Judicial Hearing be held
and that anyone wishing to speak in favor of or in opposition to the requests should be
sworn in.
Mayor Turville read Resolution No. 1113 by title only.
Planning Director Brown stated the applicant is requesting a conditional use permit
to construct a convenience store, gas station, restaurant and retail store at .the
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southeast comer of State Road 50 and Hancock Road. Mr. Brown stated the
property is in the UD-6 land use district and the requested uses are allowable,
therefore Staff recommends approval. Mr. Brown reviewed the conditions of the
proposed conditional use permit with the City Council Members.
City Clerk Van Zile swore in the following:
Daryl Carter, 908 S. Delaney Avenue, Orlando, Florida
Scott Gentry, 809 Appleton Avenue, Orlando, Florida
Elaine Renick, 1934 Brantley Circle, Clermont, Florida
Rodney Lyons, 242 Carrol Street, Clermont, Florida
Ray Houser, 3905 Westerham Drive, Clermont, Florida
Elaine Tharpe, Twickingham, Clermont, Florida
Mr. Carter offered to answer any questions and stated applicants agreed to all of
the conditions that were suggested by Staff.
Council Member Lamb stated she was concerned about having another cut on Highway
50.
Mr. Carter stated that there would be an access off of State Road 50 and an access off
Hancock Road making the traffic flow much better and safer.
Mayor Turville stated that it was difficult to make a decision about traffic flow and
elevation issues from the drawing provided and asked if the Council could wait for a final
drawing before making a decision.
Council Member Mullins stated he was concerned regarding the hills and suggested the
use of landscape walls. Mr. Mullins was concerned about whether the construction on
Hancock Road would be going on during the time school is being held.
Mr. Gentry stated that before going to the expense of final road plans and engineering it
was necessary for them to have their zoning and they have provided everything the City
requires to bring this before the City Council. Mr. Gentry stated that the applicants were
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working with the DOT regarding traffic flows and stated regarding Hancock Road that it
is necessary to do some grading of the road to make it safe. Mr. Gentry reminded the
Council Members that the other section of Hancock road has already been smoothed out
to make it safe. Mr. Gentry stated they have an advantage in that they are doing some of
the road work in conjunction with the site and have the option and ability to put a
temporary road with temporary access to the property and will be able to keep the road
open during construction.
Elaine Renick stated that Planning and Zoning approved this without the final visuals and
stated it was confusing as to whether final drawings are required before approval or not.
Mayor Turville stated that it was difficult to vote on this issue because they could not tell
from the drawings exactly what the plan was and whether or not their concerns regarding
traffic and elevations were founded or not. Mr. Turville requested the City Manager's
opinion.
City Manager Saunders stated the City always tries to have applicants bring a site plan
that is as close to what the applicant wants to do as possible, but there is always some
changes that have to be made. Mr. Saunders stated that if an issue arises on the final
plans they refer to the conceptual plans that were presented to the Council and if there are
substantial changes they would bring it back before the City Council. Mr. Saunders
stated that there have been several meetings with Lake County regarding the elevation of
Hancock Road. Mr.. Saunders stated the County has indicated that they will put impact
fees into that road construction, however it will have to meet their criteria. Mr. Saunders
stated that unless the applicant knows he has the appropriate zoning to build his project, it
would not be feasible to design a roadway.
Council Member Lamb stated she was not prepared to make a decision without specific
answers regarding elevation, traffic patterns, entrance and stacking.
Council Member Mullins stated he did not want to see a street level convenience store on
that comer and wanted the elevation of Hancock Road and the property taken into
consideration so there are still hills. Mr. Mullins stated he approved of the idea of having
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a restaurant, gas station and convenience store at the location, but wanted them on top of
a hill.
Mayor Turville stated that for the record there was one letter attached to this file and the
citizen requested that Mr. Carter be required to cut down the other side of the road also on
this citizen's property.
There was further discussion regarding the visual aids that were produced to show the
City Council the property elevations and proposed layout of the project and road
improvements.
Council Member Biddle stated he would like to see a topographical depiction of the plan
and applicants offered a rough draft for the Council's review.
Rodney Lyons inquired regarding the driveway cut on Highway 50 and whether there was
a spacing criteria and Mayor Turville responded that the DOT has criteria.
Ray Houser stated his concern regarding turning an acceleration lane into a deceleration
lane and felt traffic would stack and back up on Hancock Road and Mr. Carter responded
that this came up during the Planning and Zoning meeting and the applicant stated they
cannot self-impose that traffic pattern but would be required to let the County and DOT
make that decision.
After considerable discussion the Council Members agreed they were very concerned
about the issues of elevation and traffic flow as it relates to the intersections on Highway
50 and Hancock Road and suggested Mr. Carter may want to table the request to a time
certain.
Mr. Carter responded that they would like the City Council to vote on the issue at this
meeting. Mr. Carter stated that the issue tonight is the use of the property and at the time
of the site review process they will work with Staff and the Council to meet the City's
criteria. Mr. Carter stated he felt that applicants have agreed to the conditions imposed on
them. Mr. Carter stated that the applicants are dedicating additional right-of-way for
· Hancock Road, dedicating the right-of-way for Hook Street and actually committing to
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build Hook Street along the South end of their property. Mr. Carter stated there is a limit
to what a developer can do on a project and their property is properly shown on the Comp
Plan for this use and is zoned C-2 and Mr. Carter stated the only issue before the Council
tonight is use of the property. Mr. Carter stated that he did not feel the project should be
delayed while the City comes up with a grading Ordinance and felt that applicants have
followed all of the City's policy and procedures to the letter and have met all of the
requirements of the application process. Mr. Carter stated the applicants were committed
to working with Staff and City Engineer as well as the County and would like Council's
approval of the requested Conditional Use Permit.
City Attorney Guthrie stated there is case law with regards to pending ordinances and
since the developer is aware that the City has been discussing a grading ordinance, which
has been drafted he advised that a condition could be imposed that relates to compliance
with the proposed pending ordinance. Mr. Guthrie stated that the Council is now at a
conceptual plan process and they will be on notice that at the time they come in with a
specific development proposal that the pending ordinance will be in place and they will
be required to comply with it.
Council Member Lamb stated she did not believe we should have any more cuts on
HighwaY 50 and Highway 50 was not being given a chance to get better. Ms. Lamb
stated she felt this would make it worse and she believed frontage roads were the answer
that would get people off of Highway 50. Ms. Lamb stated that the City should learn
from the mistakes made on Highway 50 from Winter Garden to Orlando.
Mayor Turville stated that their will be another route available that will almost serve as a
service road.
City Manager Saunders stated that the City is requiring Hook Street to be extended along
the southern boundary of the property and Hook Street will also go to the West with an
intersection on Hancock Road, so anyone traveling on Highway 27 could access this site
without ever getting on Highway 50. Mr. Saunders stated that he is not a fan of more cuts
on Highway 50, however if the only access was from Hancock Road there would be a
larger problem with everything trying to get in and out on Hancock.
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City Attorney Guthrie stated the City has constraints in that if the developer meets the
Department of Transportation's criteria the City cannot deprive a property owner of
access to Highway 50.
Elaine Tharp stated she is concerned regarding Hancock Road and stated that one of the
problems at Hiawasee and Highway 50 is that there is no deceleration lane to right turn
right and we don't want that to happen on Hancock or there will be stacking.
City Manager Saunders stated he has reviewed conceptual plans that Lake County has for
that intersection and does not recall the plan eliminating the free right turn at that
intersection. Mr: Saunders-stated'that it can be accomplished by having an area just
directly east that is not part of the deceleration lane. Mr. Saunders stated the reason the
acceleration lane was built there is because there was just a stop sign there in the past.
Mr. Saunders stated that now that there is a traffic signal the need for an acceleration lane
is eliminated.
Rodney Lyons requested that someone answer his questions regarding the DOT's criteria.
Mr. Carter stated that they have a transportation engineer and have a traffic study. Mr.
Carter stated their project meets the DOT's criteria.
A motion was made by Council Member Mullins, seconded b¥ Council
Member Biddle, and approved bY roll call vote 4 to 1 to approve the
conditional use permit with the condition that the applicant be required to
compl¥ and meet the criteria set in the pending Grading Ordinance.
(Council Member Lamb against)
CITIZENS' COMMENTS
Rodney Lyons stated his father had applied to put up a small green house and was
required to get engineering on it and get a building and electrical permits. Mr. Lyons
stated he did not know how the Fire Department can use these structures when his Father
could not put up a green house without all the permits. Mr. Lyons stated the Fire
Department had put up canvas tarps or tents to cover their fire tracks. Mr. Lyons stated
his Father obtained a copy of the letter to Fire Chief Bishop authorizing the tents. Mr.
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Lyons stated his Father obtained a copy of the Minutes wherein the City Council
approved those covers, and the minutes do not authorize "tents" but authorize "temporary
structures". Mr. Lyons stated that his father also got a copy of the Bill of Sales for the
structures and they identify the covers as "canvas tarps" not "tents". Mr. Lyons does not
believe these are legal structures.
Mayor Turville stated the City Council voted to approve the temporary structures for the
fire tracks until the new fire station is built.
City Attorney Guthrie stated the City has the authority to authorize temporary structures.
Permanent structures would require compliance with location requirements and our
zoning ordinances and must be permitted.
Mr. Lyons stated he wanted a copy of the document showing the County does all the
permitting and the City reserves the fight for tent permitting and also wants a duplicate
copy of the tape from the City Council Meeting where the council approved the
temporary structures.
City Manager Saunders stated that back in the early 1980s the City of Clermont turned
over all building permitting and inspections to Lake County. Mr. Saunders stated we will
provide a copy of our Land Development Regulations regarding temporary structures.
Mr. Saunders explained that the City did not have tape-duplicating equipment that works
with our recording system as it is old and the speeds are different, but we were attempting
to locate duplicator that would work with our old recording system. Mr. Saunders stated
the tape was available in City Hall and Mr. Lyons was welcome to copy the tape with his
own equipment.
Joe Janusiak stated he had many complaints regarding citizens leaving their garbage cans
out by the street for days at a time after the garbage has already been picked up. Mr.
Janusiak stated that he also would request the City require the big dumpsters such as the
one behind IGA and "On the Comer Sea Food Grill" to be fenced in and cleaned up so
they do not smell.
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Council Member Mullins acknowledged the Boy Scouts who attended the Council
Meeting and congratulated their organization for being 90 years old this month.
There being no further business or discussion, the meeting adjourned at 8:05 p.m.
~Mayor.
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