10-23-2001 Regular Meeting CITY OF CLERMONT
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A regular meeting of the City Council of the City of Clermont was held Tuesday, October 23, 2001 at Jenkins
Auditorium. Mayor Hal Turville called the meeting to order at 7:00 p.m. with the following Council Members
present: Council Members MacLauchlin, Mullins and Renick. Other City officials present were City Manager
Saunders, City Attorney Guthrie, Planning Director Brown and Deputy City Clerk Studdard.
INVOCATION
The Invocation was offered by Council Member Mullins, followed by the repeating of the Pledge of Allegiance to
the Flag by all present.
MINUTES
A motion was made by Council Member Mullins, seconded by Council Member
MacLauchlin, and carried unanimously to approve the minutes of the Regular Council
Meeting held October 23, 2001.
REPORTS
City Manager Saunders' Report
City Manager Saunders discussed with the City Council current garbage/sanitation costs. He stated that the
City is currently disposing of our solid waste at the Lake County incinerator and that research of other
facilities had found that the City could utilize a transfer station in Orange County at a savings of up to
130,000 to 150,000 per year. He further stated that he had discussed the issue with Lake County and
recommended approval of delivering to the new site for disposal.
A motion was made by Council Me~nber Mullins, seconded by Council Member
MacLauchlin, and carried unan#nousl? to pursue new arrangements with Waste
Management to utilize the transfer station in Orange Coun_tF for waste disposal.
Council Member Mullins' Report
Council Member Mullins stated that Council Member MacLauchlin had been honored at the October 19,
2001 Chamber of Commerce Breakfast as the October 2001 Gem of the Hills.
Council Member Renick's Report
Council Member Renick stated the Sugarloaf issue was discussed at the Council workshop meeting the
previous evening and a motion was needed to move forward with draffing a letter to the Govemor and Cabinet
in support of the Lake County Board of County Commissioners' and the Lake County Water Authority's
opposition to the Sugarloaf Development. She further stated that she would be attending the meeting in
Tallahassee and would like to represent the City and present the letter.
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A motion was made by Council Me~nber Renick, seconded bY Council Me~nber
Mullins, and carried unanbnousl_¥ to direct StalTto send letter in support of the
Lake County Board of Coun~ Commissioners' and the Lake County Water
Authori~ 's opposition to the Sugarloaf Development to the Governor, and to
authorize Council Me~nber Renick to represent the City at the October 30, 2001
meeting in Tallahasse to present the letter at that time.
Mayor Turville's Report
Mayor Turville stated that he had received numerous calls regarding the mosquito situation and would like to
research the costs of the City obtaining a permit and equipment to allow spraying more often than the every 5
to 6 weeks that the County is currently providing, and stated that he had asked City Manager Saunders at the
Council workshop meeting the previous evening to gather more information regarding this.
NO OTHER REPORTS
PRESENTATIONS
Mayor Turville then introduced Carol Harhson, Liaison to the City Council for the Beautification Committee, to
present a Certificate of Appreciation to Harry E. Payne.
Ms. Harrison then presented the Certificate to Mr. Payne and recognized his efforts in beautifying the City. She
then requested that Oakley Scarer speak regarding Mr. Payne's efforts.
Mr. Seaver stated that Mr. Payne has picked up trash in certain neighborhoods for many years and should be
recognized for the tons of garbage he has removed from the City over the years.
CONSENT AGENDA
Mayor Turville read the items of the Consent Agenda and asked if anyone wished any item to be pulled for
discussion:
Item 1 - Lease Agreement Approval of Second Amendment to Lease
Agreement with Lake County, relating to 882
Desoto Street (Sheriff's Substation)
Item 2 - Inteflocal Agreement Approval of Traffic Signal Maintenance
Interlocal Agreement Renewal with Lake
County
Item 3 - Interlocal Agreement
Approval of Interlocal Agreement between Lake
County and the City accepting Recreation Grant
Funds
Item 4 - Surplus Property
Declaring certain machinery/tools & office
equipment surplus for public auction
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Item 5 - Audit Services
Approval of Agreement with Greenlee, Kurras,
Rice & Brown, P.A. to provide Audit Services
for the year ending September 30, 2001
Item 6 - Open Air Sales & Tent Permit
Approval of Open Air Sales & Tent Permit for
north side of S.R. 50, east of Dunkin Donuts for
Christmas tree sales
Item 7 - Open Air Sales & Tent Permit
Approval of Open Air Sales Permit for First
United Methodist church property on north side
of S.R. 50 between Seventh & Eighth Streets for
Christmas tree sales
A motion was made by Council Member Mullins, seconded by Council Member
MacLauchlin, and carried unanimously to approve Ite~ns One through Seven
of the Consent Agenda.
UNFINISHED BUSINESS
Ordinance No. 311-C - Final Reading
Mayor Turville read the ordinance by title only and stated that this had been discussed at the Council
workshop meeting the previous evening.
Planning Director Brown highlighted the changes to the ordinance as discussed at the Council workshop
meeting.
Council Member Mullins discussed with Planning Director Brown the tree requirements versus square
footage.
Mayor Turville stated that he was concerned that the use of mulch to cover exposed ground might inhibit the
growth of planted ground cover and suggested changing the language to read, "exposed ground should be
planted to ensure speedy coverage with material known for rapid growth, at City Staff's direction."
After discussion it was the consensus to delete the entire statement regarding the use of mulch in relation to
exposed ground coverage for the time being.
Mayor Turville opened the public hearing at this time.
Carol Harrison, 198 W. Osceola Street, asked if this ordinance would restrict severe trimming of trees.
Planning Director Brown 'stated the ordinance does include specifications regarding maintenance and
trimming of trees.
Mayor Turville closed the public .hearing at this time.
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City Attorney Guthrie stated that this ordinance should be tabled to the next meeting for adoption due to the
numerous changes made to it as a result of the workshop meeting.
motion was made by Council Member Mullins, seconded by Council Me~nber
MacLauchlin, and carried unanimously to table Ordinance 311-C until the
~neeting of November 13, 2001 (time certain).
VISITORS WITH BUSINESS
Resolution No. 1234 - Casto Southeast, Inc.
Mayor Turville read the resolution by title only.
Planning Director Brown stated this request is for a Conditional Use Permit to create a Planned Unit Development
consisting of a 204 unit apartment complex on approximately 17 acres located at the southwest comer of Citrus
Tower Boulevard and Oakley Seaver Drive. He stated that Staff recommends approval of the request as an
appropriate use at his location with the stated conditions.
Planning Director Brown stated that the Planning & Zoning Commission had recommended denial of the request
at their October 2, 2001 meeting and requested water comparison information at that time. Mr. Brown then
distributed water comparisons provided by the applicant to the City Council.
Mayor Turville opened the public hearing at this time.
Deputy City Clerk Studdard swore in the following:
Mark Sneed, Don M. Casto Organization, 1064 Kerwood Circle, Oveido, the applicant, stated this would be an
expansion of the existing Villages at East Lake project, with the same developers and style of development. He
then stated he would be available to answer questions.
Drew Smith, Don M. Casto Organization, 480 N. Orlando Avenue, Winter Park, stated that it had been indicated
by the City Council in the past that this location would be ideal for this project. He then spoke regarding the
quality of their existing project in the City.
Nancy Fullerton, 364 W. Montrose Street, spoke in opposition to the project due to density and water issues.
She spoke regarding the recent adoption of Resolution 1202 petitioning the St. Johns River Water Management
District. She asked how many tenants would occupy a 204 unit apartment complex and if the City has a general
required number of apartments the City needs.
Abraham Torres, 2007 Crestridge Drive, spoke in opposition to the request due to schools, roads and water. He
asked if the Citrus Toxver area is the best place for apartments and stated that the City does not have proper
planning.
Mayor Turville closed the public hearing at this time.
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Mr. Sneed spoke regarding issues brought up by thc public and stated that thc traffic analysis reflects that
apartments would generate less traffic that professional offices.
Mr. Smith stated that his research shows that there arc 840 apartments built and approved within thc City and that,
including this project, this number would supply the demand for apartments for the next three years.
Mayor Turville asked Staff to verify thc number of apartments cited by Mr. Smith.
Planning Director Brown stated the current number of existing apartments in thc City is 455. He then stated that
the Lost Lake Development project has 300 units approved and 300 unapprovcd, 330 units were approved as a
part of thc Jaymark PUD known as The Fountains and 300 units were approved in thc PUD for Daryl Carter,
making the current number of built or approved apartments 1 (i91.
Council Member Mullins asked when the Fountains apartment project had been approved.
City Manager Saundcrs stated approximately two years ago.
Council Member Mullins stated that the permit for that project might soon expire.
Mayor Turville asked Staffhow many single family residences exist in the City limits.
City Manager Saunders stated approximately (~500.
Discussion followed regarding the number of apartments that arc needed in thc City.
Council Member Mullins stated that the water comparison reflects that multi-family would use more water than
medical professional offices.
Discussion followed regarding water usc for medical offices versus non-medical.
City Manager Saunders stated that, based on utility impact fees, medical offices usc more water than non-medical
offices and that thc numbers used in the comparison were worse-case scenario for medical offices, but that
medical offices had bccn envisioned at this location.
Hc then stated that thc number cited on the comparison provided for multi-family was inaccurate duc to a
mathematical error and should be approximately 65,000 because thc 10,237.5 gallons per day cited for thc 80 one
bedroom units should be over 18,000.
Council Member Mullins asked if this property has hcen zoned for multi-family for a long time.
City Manager Saundcrs stated that thc Comprehensive Plan did recognize this area as a potential area for multi-
family.
Mayor Turville stated that the City has not divided its Multi-Family/Professional Office zoning classification,
therefore an area zoned for professional office would inc.lude an allowance for multi-family in that zoning.
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He further stated that the intention in zoning this location Multi-Family/Professional Office was probably toward
professional offices due to its location to the hospital and that the zoning classification should be changed to avoid
the higher densities.
Council Member MacLauchlin stated that perhaps after the first apartment projects are built those who received
approval for their projects later might think twice about building theirs. She stated that, for this type of project, she
believes timing is critical.
Mayor Turville reviewed the City's current water permitting situation and stated he could not approve a multi-
family project when the water may not be there.
Council Member Mullins stated that there will be more people in the City to use water whether they are apartment
dwellers or not and that apartments dwellers use less water. He stated that this site has been zoned for multi-family
for years and that, as Council Member MacLauchlin stated, perhaps some of the developers with permits for
apartment projects will not build, but the location is appropriate.
A motion was made by Council Me~nber Renick and seconded by Mayor Turville
to deny Resolution No. 1234.
The applicant requested to speak at this time.
Mayor Turville deferred to City Attorney Guthrie as to whether it would be appropriate to allow the applicant
to speak at this time.
City Attomey Guthrie stated it would be at the Mayor's discretion to allow or disallow public comment.
Mayor Turville then extended an opportunity to allow anyone to speak at this time.
Mr. Sneed requested that the City Council continue the request until the water issue is better resolved.
Mr. Smith concurred with Mr. Sneed.
Discussion followed regarding whether a tied vote of the City Council would create a 'with prejudice' denial.
City Attorney Guthrie stated there was a danger of that occurring and of the applicant being barred from
reapplying for a 12 month period.
Mayor Turville rescinded his second of the motion to deny Resolution No. 1234.
A motion was ~nade b.v Council Metnber Renick, seconded b.v Ma.vor Turville,
and carried unanimousl? to table Resolution No. 1234_for 120 da.vs.
NEW BUSINESS
Large Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment Transmittal
Planner Barbara Hollerand .presented the transmittal.
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She stated that thc Land Usc Map Amendments were necessary in order to bring thc recently annexed properties
into the City's Plan from thc County and described thc four parcels involved.
Council Member Rcnick stated these properties wcrc annexed into thc City earlier this year.
Planner Hollcrand stated some changes were made to thc language in order to update thc document to the present.
Planner Hollcrand further stated that in Policy 6.1, regarding impervious surface maximums, it was found that thc
City's code was more liberal than what was in thc transmittal, therefore thc transmittal was amended to concur
with thc current code requirements. She stated it was changed to $5% from thc original 40% shown for residential.
Council Member Mullins referred to the status of'very low income' used in the Transmittal and stated that, based
upon the numbers used, the City should provide more low income housing.
Nancy Fullcrton, 364 W. Montrosc Street, asked why thc residential impervious surface number was made more
liberal.
Mayor Turville stated that thc City was granting numerous variances for pools and that this change would help
remedy that situation. He further stated that was the primary allowance with thc new number.
Council Member Mullins stated the ratio was made up of two numbers.
Planning Director Brown stated that 40% was for home, drives and sidewalks with thc remaining 15% for pool.
~4 motion was made b_¥ Council Member Mullins~ seconded by Cou~cil
Member MacLauchlin, and carried unanimo,tsl~¥ to transmit the Large
Scale Comprehensive Plan ~4mendment.
City Manager Saunders voiced his appreciation to Planner Barbara Hollcrand as well as Planning Director Brown
for their hard work and effort in preparing this transmittal.
Appointment of Mayor Pro Tern
Mayor Turvillc stated that with the resignation of Council Member Biddle a new Mayor Pro Tcm needed to bc
appointed.
Council Member MacLauchlin nominated Council Member Mullins.
/1 motion was made by Council Member MacLauchlin, seconded b_)~ Co~mcil
Member Renick, and carried ~tnanimousl¥ to appoint Council Member Mulli,s
as MaYor Pro Tern for the remainder of tl~e ~tnexpired t~.~o year term.
Mayor Turvillc asked if anyone wished to speak on any other issues.
Richard Tegan, 2292 Twickingham Court, stated that the Kings Ridge residents arc paying a monthly fcc to thc
City for reuse xvatcr and that thc Publix center is using Kings Ridge water at no charge.
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City Manager Saunders stated that the provision of water to the Publix shopping center from Lennar was an
internal agreement between the two parties and that the City was not privy to that information.
City Manager Saunders stated that the City is in discussion with Rob Ahrens of Lennar Homes regarding reuse
water at this time.
Mayor Turville stated that Alan Oyler, employee of the City of Orlando, had attended last night's workshop
meeting and had indicated that the City of Orlando might service Kings Ridge reuse water needs in the future.
Jim Purvis, 4206 Hammersmith Drive, stated that representatives of Lennar Homes blame the City for the $5.65
monthly reuse water charge to Kings Ridge residents and asked the City Council to agenda the topic for further
discussion.
City Manager Saunders stated that he had met two weeks ago with Rob Ahrens and his attorney along with City
Attorney Guthrie. He stated that he had relayed previous to that meeting changes to be made to the reuse water
agreement based upon the concerns stated by Kings Ridge residents, and requested that Lennar forward the
revised agreement to the City as soon as possible for City Council approval. He further stated that at this time the
City has not received those revisions.
Mayor Turville stated that this issue should be placed on a City Council agenda in 30 days.
H.M. Harris, Jr., 12646 Scottish Pines Lane, spoke regarding late fees associated with utility payments.
Bob Stroble, 3813 Searborough Court, requested that the City Council also add discussion of equalization of east
and west water rates to the City Council agenda.
Mayor Turville stated that the City is looking at the overall system and individual issues related to the two systems
at this time prior to creating a new, more equal, rate structure.
Mr. Stroble asked if the City could charge more (125%) for users outside the City limits.
Mayor Turville stated that is being looked at as well.
City Manager Saunders stated that some situations would not allow the 125% charge, but that a new rate schedule
will be brought to the City Council.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 9:00 p.m.
Hal Turville, Mayor
Mern~
~ndum
TO: Joe Van Zile, Finance Director
Wayne Saunders, City Manager
Teresa Studdard, Administration Assistant/DeputyC1erk
FROM: Preston Davis, Public Services Director
DATE: October 4, 2001
SUBJECT: Surplus Equipment
The listed surplus equipment will be sent to George Gideon Auctioneers, Inc. if
approved. George Gideon has handled our surplus for auction the last two years.
1. ALLIS CHALMERS MOTORS (2)
Type RCV; HP 20 Hertz 60; RPM 1760 Phase 3
Volts 280/460; Amps 50/25
2. ALLIS CHALMERS PUMPS (2)
Size 6x4x12 Model 400 - 4x4x12; Type NSWR - LC; GPM 450
HD ft 62; IMP, DIA 8 '/a; RPM 1765
-,
4.
ALLIS CHALMERS MOTOR ONLY
Type RGV; HP 15 Phase 3; RPM 1750; Volts 230/460; Amps 38/15
ALLIS CHALMERS MOTOR ONLY
Type RBV; HP 20; Hertz 60; RPM 1760, Phase 3; Volts 230/460:
Amps 50/25
5. ALLIS CHALMERS MOTOR & PUMP
Type RGV; HP 20 Hertz 60; RPM 1760, Phase 3; Volts 230/460
Amps SO/25 ALLIS CHALMERS PUMP: Model 400; Size 4x4x 12
Type NSWV-LC; Imp. Dia 10.25; RPM 1765
6. ALLIS CHALMERS MOTOR AND PUMP
Type RGV; HP 15, Hertz 60; RPM 1750, Phase 3; Volts 230/460;
Amps 38/19 ALLIS CHAMERS PUMP
Model 400; Size 6x4x10; Type NSWV-LC;
GPM 240/Head ft.87; Imp. Dia. 9.5; RPM 1760
7. U.S. ELECTRICAL MOTORS WITH PUMPS:
Type A.V., HP 20, RPM 1760, Volts 230/460, FL. Amps 51.2/25.6
8. RELIANCE MOTORS (2-Total):
Type P, Hertz 60; HP 20,. Phase 3; RPM 1755, Volts 230/460, Amps 42/21
9. RELIANCE MOTORS (2 Total) with Pumps-Wemco
Type P; Hertz 60; HP 10, Phase 3; RPM 1755; Volts 230; Amps 27
10. FLYGHT WITH PUMP
Submersible; HP 3.8, Hertz 60; RPM 1700; 230 Volt, 17 Amp
11. (1) 11 ''/z" HYDROMATIC IMPELLER -CLOCKWISE
(1) 11 ''/z" HYDROMATIC IMPELLER -COUNTER CLOCKWISE
12. (2) ALLIS CHALMERS STATORS
Type RCV, HP 20, Hertz 60, RPM 1760, Phase 3;
Volts 230/460, Amp 50/25,
13. 5-HP BRIGGS & STRATTON GAS RODDER w/extra spool
14. (2) ROTORS Hydromatic
15. (5) ROTORS Allis Chalmers
16. (2) 7 3/4" Allis Chalmers IMPELLERS
17. (2) 11 3/8" Allis Chalmers IMPELLERS
18. (4) 91/4" Allis Chalmers IMPELLERS
19. (2) 10'/4" Allis Chalmers IMPELLERS
20. (2) 9" Allis Chalmers IMPELLERS
21. (3) 10 '/a" Allis Chalmers IMPELLERS
22. Approximately 600 pounds of old water meter brass and copper to be sold at
Aaron's Salvage.
23. Truck No. 4227, Ford King Cab, Year 1980, ID No. 2FTHW35Y7FCA9530~
24. Truck No. 4219, Dodge P/U, Year 1990, ID No. 1B7JE26Y6LS676752
City of Clermont, Florida
Schedule of Property Items to be Declared Surplus
Finance Department
October 2001
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