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The meeting of the Planning & Zoning Commission was called to order Tuesday,
September 3, 2002, at 7 p.m. by Vice-Chairman John Atwater. Members present were
Dave Lange, Sy Holzman, Maggie Miller, and Ronaldo Camargo. David Pape, Richard
Tegen and John Carlson were absent. Also in attendance were Barry Brown, Director
of Planning, Robert Guthrie, City Attorney and Jane McAllister, Planning Technician II.
Maggie Miller wanted her suggestion added to the minutes, that when the Commission
tables a matter the City Council should be informed as to the reason it was tabled.
MINUTES of the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held August 6, 2002 were
approved as written.
REPORTS
John Atwater read a letter written by Chairman Richard Tegen and addressed to the
City Council and the County Commission, about meetings between the City of Clermont
and the County relating to the Joint Planning Agreement. Mr. Tegen requested that all
the Planning & Zoning members sign the letter and that it be forwarded to both the City
Council and the County Commission.
REQUEST FOR A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
APPLICANT: Don M. Casto Organization
OWNER: Lucas Clermont Limited Partnership
REQUEST: For a Conditional Use Permit for a Planned Unit Development (PUD) to
allow the construction of a 204-unit apartment complex.
Planning Director Barry Brown informed the Commission that the applicant has
requested that the matter be postponed until the January 7, 2003 meeting.
S Holzman made a motion to ost one this re uest until the Janua 7 2003 meetin .
Dave Lange seconded the motion. The vote was unanimous in favor of posfponing the
request until January 7, 2003.
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2. REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
APPLICANT: NTR Development Inc.
OWNER: Rabi & George Nesheiwat
REQUEST: For a Conditional Use Permit to construct a shopping center.
GENERAL LOCATION: Northwest corner of S.R. 50 and Hancock Road.
SIZE OF PARCEL: +/- 7 acres.
EXISTING LAND USE: Undeveloped and vacant.
FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICT: Undeveloped District - 5 (UD-5); the requested use is
an allowable use in UD-5.
FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION: Commercial. The requested use is allowed in
the Commercial land use classification.
EXISTING ZONING: C-2, Commercial District. A shopping center is a conditional use in
the C-2 zoning district.
Planning Director Barry Brown introduced this request by saying that the applicant is
proposing to develop a shopping center that will consist of 5 commercial parcels, an
anchor parcel with up to 20,000 square feet of general retail space and four (4)
commercial out parcels. The out parcels may include retail, restaurant, pharmacy, and
financial institution users. The project is appropriately located at the signaled
intersection of a principal arterial, S.R. 50 and a collector roadway, Hancock Road.
The north boundary of this project is on the planned alignment for the frontage road
between Citrus Tower Blvd. and Hancock Road. The permittee will be required to
dedicate 40 ft. of right-of-way along the north property line in order to accommodate the
frontage road. The permittee will be required to construct the frontage road along the
entire length of the property. Initially the frontage road will only need to be constructed
from Hancock Road to the first driveway. At such time as impact fee reimbursement is
available the remainder of the frontage road shall be constructed.
The project meets the criteria of the land use designations and zoning district and staff
recommends approval.
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Mr. Brown wanted to inform the Commission of the variances that have been
requested. The first one is to provide a 10 ft. wide landscape buffer rather than the 20
ft. buffer required by code along S.R. 50, the second is to allow the landscape buffer on
Hancock Rd. to have 10 feet of slope rather than having the entire buffer flat as
required by code. Mr. Brown stated that staff supports these requests. The third
variance request is to allow a 5 foot landscape buffer between adjoining properties
rather that the 10 feet required by code. Staff does not support this request.
Ronaldo Camargo suggested that there is a precedent being set by allowing variances
for 10 ft. landscape buffers.
Barry Brown said that each site is unique. He explained that the old landscape buffer
requirement was 10 feet when Target got their CUP, and that allowing a 10 foot buffer
along S.R. 50 for this project would continue that look. He stated further that the goal is
to increase landscaping along S.R. 50, but that in this case because of the dedication of
the 40 ft. for the frontage road on the north side of the property staff agrees with
allowing a 10 ft. landscape buffer on this property.
Cecelia Bonafay, attorney for the applicant said that her client has agreed to dedicate
the full 40 feet of right-of-way that the City requested. She said that is the reason for
asking for the variance for the 10 foot buffer along S.R. 50.
Tom Skelton, American Civil Engineering Co, 207 N. Moss Road, Suite 211, Winter
Springs, FL 32708, Frank Canon, Spencer Phelps and Terry Lubinsky of Trycon, Inc.
300 International Parkway, Suite 184, Heathrow, FL 32746, were sworn in and offered
to answer any questions the Commission might have.
Ronaldo Camargo asked if there would be a curb along the driveway near the
Walgreens drive thru, which is next to a cross access lane of traffic.
Tom Skelton said there was an offset thru lane with a double stop condition in the
Walgreens drive thru. An island could be extended to separate the drive thru from the
cross access drive.
Maggie Miller said that this is not a workable plan. She stated she has problems with
the offset driveway, having 3 drive through windows in a row right next to each other,
and that access is not going to be easy. She stated the developer appears to be
attempting to cram as much as possible in to this site and that she does not like it at all.
Sy Holzman said he echos Ms. Millers comments and added that he does not like the
placement of a shopping center on this site at all. Mr. Holzman further stated he does
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not want to see so much commercial along State Road 50. He said he does not like the
layout of the proposed shopping center and that the internal driving pattern will be a
disaster.
Ronaldo Camargo said that although he is not opposed to the project he too is
concerned with the safety of the internal traffic flow especially when it meets with the
external traffic attempting to enter the shopping center. Mr. Camargo stated that he
does not have a problem with the variances requested, but stated that the developer
may be trying to put too much on this site.
Dave Lange agreed with other Commission members that the density was too great on
this site. He mentioned that the Commissioner's focus at the last hearing was on the 40
foot right-of-way, and that there was little discussion of anything else because of that
concern.
Cecelia Bonafay said that the Commission did indeed focus on the 40 foot right-of-way
at the last hearing, and that is what the developer heard and that is what the developer
addressed. She further stated that the site has C-2 zoning and that the developer had
other options that would not have required approval of the City Council. Ms. Bonafay
further said the site meets engineering specifications and will work. She said some of
the Commissioners concerns are site plan review items.
Ronaldo Camargo said that the Commission has to consider how convenient or
inconvenient a project is for the consumer.
Maggie Miller asked Tom Skelton is he has ever done a shopping center with 3 drive
thrus before.
Tom Skelton said that he had not, but he added that Walgreens does not want anyone
to be inconvenienced.
Terry Lubinsky said he has designed more than 50 shopping centers and has seen
numerous occasions where the site has 3 front parcels with drive thrus. He said it was
not an unusual occurrence. Mr. Lubinsky stated that they, as the developers, have
already made over $400,000.00 in accommodations to the City on this site.
Frank Canon said that this site plan layout was not unusual.
There was further discussion about the uses and layout of the parcels on this site.
Barry Brown stated that the planned uses for this location are appropriate, and that the
alignment of the driveways and the traffic flow need to be dealt with.
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John Atwater suggested the matter be tabled.
Barry Brown suggested the Commission either approve or deny the request and advise
the City Council why they reached their decision.
Dave Lange made a motion to approve the request subiect to reevaluation by City Staff.
Ronaldo Camargo seconded the motion.
During discussion of the motion Ronaldo Camargo asked if it was proper to approve a
request subject to reevaluation.
City Attorney Robert Guthrie advised that it could be done that way and then they could
make a motion to address the matters of concern to the Commission.
Maggie Miller stated that she calculated that Taco Bell is 32 parking spaces short.
Barry Brown looked at the calculation and determined that Taco Bell did not show the
required parking.
Ronaldo Camargo withdrew his second of the motion because the parking does not
meet code and there was no request for a variance for parking.
Dave Lange withdrew his motion.
Dave Lange explained that he was withdrawing his motion because he assumed all the
figures presented were correct, and it appears that they were not.
Ronaldo Camargo stated that the Commission was presented with a design that is not
valid.
_Sy Holzman made a motion to deny the request. Maggie Miller seconded the motion.
The vote was unanimous to denv the request.
The Commission wanted the City Council to be aware of the reasons the request was
denied. The request was denied because the Commission thinks the layout of the site
is not good, the access road and internal driving patterns are not safe, the close
proximity of parcels 2 and 3 both with drive through windows, and that the site should
have 4 parcels rather than the 5 presented. They pointed out that the design as
presented faits to comply with City Code.
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There being no further business the meeting was~djourned.
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