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'pallnd S8~ ~lm~ad ~uIPl1nq 8 aml~ q~Ba }18q-auo pus ~lm~ad ~u1Pllnq ~S~IJ aq~ uodn saa} ~~8dml ~a~as pa~8m -l~sa aq~ }O }18q-auo A8d o~ SB~ ~adOlaAap aq~ }O apBm pBq }}B~S aq~ ~sanba~ aq~ '~USld ~uam~sa~~ a~B~as aq~ S8~ passn~slP ma~l ~S~l} aqJ. r I ,. e e WORKSHOP MEETING September 23, 1987 Page -2- it does not meet the intent of our ordinance to provide recreation or parks for the citizens of Clermont. City Attorney Baird stated that there was a large amount of wetlands owned by the developer that should be preserved and it would be nice to have an area City residents could use, at no charge, that would be dedicated to the citizens of Clermont. It was the consensus of Council that the developer should come up with $50,000 and also a donation of a cert~in amount of land that could be used by the citizens of Clermont. The third item discussed was the looped water system. The City Manager explained that this had been requested of the developers since the beginning of the project, and that the City Engineer and Utility Director felt that it was important that a looped water system be constructed between the City and the project as a backup to the project in case there were problems with the project's water system. The water and sewer agreement that the City would be signing with the developer guarantees that the City will provide potable water for the project. Without a looped system severe problems could develop if the wells or water system on-site were not adequate or other problems developed at a future date. Mr. Richey explained that the developer proposed to build two wells on the site at the beginning of the project, and on an agreed date, probably in Phase III, would loop the system at that time. The question was brought up as to whether two wells were needed if the City could provide backup by looping the system. Alex Hull, Engineer for the developer, stated that he had proposed two wells because he did not think the City had adequate pressure to provide the flow needed for the project. City Manager Saunders stated that this was an engineering question that would have to be answered by the City Engineer, and that he would direct him to develop a flow for this area to see if the flows coming from the City in a looped system would be adequate to provide backup for the development. In the event the two wells are constructed by the developer with the system to be looped at a latter date, it was discussed that the agreement should include an option for the City to build the looped system at an earlier date, if necessary, and be reimbursed by the developer at the agreed time, which would probably be Phase III. This could become necessary if other properties were requesting development that would need the water service prior to the looping of the system by the Minneola Harbour Development. The final item of discussion was the fire facility. City Staff had requested that a site be dedicated for the facility, and at the beginning of Phase III a building and piece of equipment would be provided by the developer. At that time there would be approximately 290 homes and it was determined that to provide protection to that many homes equal to the protection of the rest of the City, an on-site piece of equipment would have to be maintained. Mr. Richey explained that they had no problem with providing their share of a fire facility, but felt that a proposed service area for that facility should be defined and any other developments in that proposed area should pay their fair share by reimbursing the Minneola Harbours project as they came on line. ,.- , e . WORKSHOP MEETING September 23, 1987 Page -3- It was the consensus of Council that this would probably be a fair method of providing fire service in this area. City Attorney Baird stated that he believed that this could be worked out. City Manager Saunders reiterated his concern of the shortfall in the General Fund for the first four to five years of the project. He stated that he felt the revenues generated by the project using the projected revenues supplied by the developer would not generate enough funds to cover the additional cost for services required for the area. Depending on whether you use the Staff projections for revenues or the developer's revenue projections, an average shortfall of $10,000 to $25,000 per year would be realized by the City. This is mainly due to the police protection needed for the area and some Public Works Department expenditures. After a lengthy discussion of the pros and cons of the project among all present, Mr. Richey asked if dates could be set for the required hearings for the annexation and the Planned Unit Development. Mr. Saunders explained that the City had adopted a resolution regard- ing annexation that required the Council to actually vote as to whether or not to pursue an annexation prior to the actual required hearings. Mr. Saunders stated that he would place this matter on the agenda of the October 13, 1987 Council Meeting and develop a timetable for the other required notices and public hearings. There being no further discussion, the meeting adjourned at 10:50 p.m. & p~~~ Attest: ~ Evv;{Zle, City Clerk