08-05-2008 Regular MeetingCity of Clermont
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The meeting of the Planning & Zoning Commission was called to order Tuesday August 5, 2008
at 7:01 p.m. by Chairman David Pape. Members present were Bill Banzhaf, Bernadette Dubuss,
Nick Jones, William Gray, and Judy Proli. Also in attendance were Curt Henschel, City Planner,
Dan Mantzaris, City Attorney, and Rae Chidlow, Administrative Assistant.
MINUTES of the Planning and Zoning Commission meeting held July 1, 2008 were approved
as written.
REPORTS
There were no reports.
Imagine Schools -Small Scale Comp Plan -Request for a Small Scale Comprehensive Plan Amendment.
(To be postponed to Sept. 2, 2008)
Commissioner Jones moved to postpone the request, seconded by Commissioner Dubuss. The
vote was unanimous to postpone the request to September 2, 2008.
1. REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
PROJECT NAME: Enterprise Leasing Co. of Orlando
OWNER: Hurtak Family Partnership, Ltd.
APPLICANT: Cindy Sherrod
REQUESTED ACTION: A request to amend a CUP (Res. No. 1547) to allow the use
of an auto rental business in a C-2 General Commercial
District
EXISTING ZONING: C-2, General Commercial District
GENERAL LOCATION: South Lake Plaza Shopping Center, north of Hwy 50 and
west of Bloxam Ave.
EXISTING LAND USE: Shopping center
FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICT: Existing Business District 2 (EBD-2)
FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION: Commercial
City planner Curt Henschel stated that the applicant has requested to amend Resolution No. 1547
for the operation of the auto rental business within South Lake Shopping Plaza. The location of
the rental car storage and car wash area is needed to accommodate a preexisting tenant (Bright
House). He stated the auto rental business is occupying the last store on the west side of the
center. He stated that the applicant proposes to move their 13 parking spaces previously
approved in the rear of the site, to the west side of the development.
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Mr. Henschel stated that the applicant is also requesting a wash basin (also previously approved)
to be moved to the middle of the 13 spaces, and to be screened with a fence, instead of a wall.
Mr. Henschel stated that according to the applicant, the proposed wash basin will use an
oil/water separator (OWS) system which will include equipment serving on a quarterly basis. He
stated that this system is more cost effective for the applicant to install than the originally
proposed system which was completely self-contained. He stated the original self-contained
system was originally approved to be located at the rear of the building, away from Highland
Ave.
Mr. Henschel stated that staff has reviewed the OWS system request and can recommend
approval for drainage into the sewer system for the treated water. He stated that the system shall
be maintained and serviced on at least a quarterly basis by a company specializing in this OWS
wash system. He said that this condition is listed in Section 2 -Land Use, of the CUP.
Mr. Henschel stated that because of the proposed location for this business, staff believes there is
ample parking available for the relocation of the 13 spaces to the western side of the
development. He stated that storage and operations are not exposed or adjacent to external
roads.
Mr. Henschel stated that staff recommends a royal of the requested CUP for a car rental
business and the associated car location at the South Lake Plaza Shopping Center.
Cindy Sherrod, 5442 Hoffner Ave. Orlando, stated that she was here to represent Enterprise.
Commissioner Boyatt asked who the entity is that monitors the waste water.
Ms. Sherrod stated they have been working with a company named Northstar, which is in
Tennessee but work out of Lakeland. She has met with a company called Act which is based out
of Tampa and has a local office in Orlando so they are local and service this area.
Commissioner Boyatt asked how the City is protected if the applicant hires the inspectors for the
waste water.
Ms. Sherrod stated that they do this same thing in Casselberry and Sanford. She stated that the
oil/water separator is better than the reclaim systems. She stated there is a pit in the ground that
will collect the dirt. She stated that they do not pressure wash engines or the under carriages, all
they do is wash off road grime. She stated that after the wash water collects in the pit, it goes
through a filter and the water goes through to the sewer system. She stated that on a quarterly
basis there is a vacuum truck that cleans the sludge out of the pits. She stated they take the
sludge to a company in Lakeland called Aqua Clean, they test it and they have a manifest that
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proves they have disposed of the sludge properly. She stated a manifest is sent to the City to
prove that they are following the proper procedures.
Chairman Pape asked who at the City would handle the manifests.
Ms. Sherrod stated that in Casselberry it goes through their utilities department because it is a
smaller city. She stated in Orlando they have anoil/grease department that handles it, so
basically it is up to the City to determine who is going to monitor it.
Mr. Henschel stated that the City's utilities department does have a crew that goes out and
inspects grease traps similar to this.
Ms. Sherrod stated that they use non-hazardous products for cleaning their vehicles.
Commissioner Proli asked if there will be cars washed at this location.
Ms. Sherrod stated that they do wash cars at the location; it was approved in their original
conditional use permit.
Commissioner Proli asked that once the oil is separated how long does that stay on the property?
She also asked if there were any flammable materials at their location.
Ms. Sherrod stated there really isn't any oil. She said the oil/water separator is also called a
sand/water separator, which is more of the job of this equipment. It collects the dirt when it is
washed off the cars into the pit. It is serviced quarterly.
Chairman Pape asked if this is a sealed pit or an open pit.
Ms. Sherrod stated that it is a sealed pit approximately 3 x 3 x 5 feet and is concrete. She stated
that is has a solid lid on it so no rain water can get in there.
Commissioner Gray asked how many vehicles are being washed each week.
Ms. Sherrod stated that this is not a very busy office so they maybe wash 40 to 50 vehicles a
week.
Commissioner Gray moved to approve the request, seconded by Commissioner Boyatt. The vote
was unanimous to recommend for approval to City Council.
2. REQUEST FOR CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT
OWNER: Salvatores, Inc.
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APPLICANT: Scott Paul
PROJECT NAME: Lakeside Learning Center, LLC
REQUESTED ACTION: Request for a CUP to allow a private school in the C-1 (Light
Commercial) Zoning District.
LOCATION: Northeast corner of Second Street and Chestnut Street
EXISTING LAND USE: Commercial building
FUTURE LAND USE DISTRICT: Non Established District 3 (NED-3)
FUTURE LAND USE CLASSIFICATION: Commercial
EXISTING ZONING: C-1 (General Commercial)
City planner Curt Henschel stated that the applicant is requesting a conditional use permit to
allow a private school within the C-1 (Light Commercial) zoning district. He stated that private
Schools are designated as a conditional use within the C-1 zoning district.
Mr. Henschel stated that the applicant is proposing to occupy a 1,200 square foot space available
at 151 West Hwy. 50 (next to Clermont Florist.) He said the school will handle up to 24 students
ranging from K through 5th grade, also a tutoring program after school hours for students 1St
through 12th grade. He stated that the applicant will provide apick-up and drop off area on site,
and any required parking will also be added.
Mr. Henschel stated that staff recommends APPROVAL of the request for a CUP to allow a
Private School on this C-1 (Light Commercial) zoned parcel.
Scott Paul, 1612 Indianshore Dr., stated that two years ago he started homeschooling privately in
his home. He stated that he has found a building that is more accessible to the public. He stated
that the property owners are going to allow him to rent the classrooms that are there.
Commissioner Proli asked if he was going to renovate this building. She also asked if there
would be a play area for the kids and how many hours will they be attending the school.
Mr. Paul stated that this building was part of the church that was there previously so there are
already classrooms there. He stated he would transport the children to a local park to play.
Chairman Pape asked how he plans on getting the children to the park.
Mr. Paul stated that he would transport them himself in his own vehicle. He stated that it is
academic during the day and the last hour of the day would be special. He stated that one day
they would go to the public library, one day they learn art, one day they have music and the other
two days would have physical activity.
Commissioner Proli asked if it would be five days a week.
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Mr. Paul stated that it would follow the public school calendar.
Commissioner Gray asked if he is going to occupy 1200 square feet in the building.
Mr. Paul stated yes, one classroom is 1200 square feet. He stated that the other portion of the
building is where the florist is.
Commissioner Gray asked where the location was for the parking for that portion of the building.
Mr. Paul stated that the parking is in front of the building. He stated that he was the only
employee at this time.
Commissioner Banzhaf stated that he is surprised they have to get a CUP because the fire
department was using it for classrooms.
Commissioner Jones asked if the building has tenant separation as far as a fire wall.
Mr. Henschel stated that the applicant is aware that one has to go in if it does not currently have
one.
Chairman Pape asked what sets him apart from the public schools
Mr. Paul stated that he has different methods of teaching. He stated that he incorporates all
multi-levels of learning for students like incorporating music and art in the curriculum instead of
teaching it separately. He stated that he is certified in regular and special education teacher and
he is certified in reading recovery programs.
Chairman Pape asked what the maximum number of students is.
Mr. Paul stated that he is looking for no more than 12 students at this time. He stated that if he
gets more he will divide into two classrooms and hire another teacher.
Commissioner Jones asked if the state would have to license this school.
Mr. Paul stated that to be recognized as a private school once the building is set and ready to be
occupied then he can apply for the state to recognize it as a private school.
Commissioner Proli asked if there were going to be different ages in one classroom.
Mr. Paul stated that it is easy to do because there are only 12 students in classroom. He stated
that some things would be done as group, but the other curriculum would be taught according to
their age level.
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Commissioner Dubuss asked if there would be some students with normal learning abilities
along with children with special needs in the same class.
Chairman Pape stated that both parties would actually benefit because the special needs kids
would learn from the other students and the mainstream students would learn to be sensitive to
the special needs students.
Commissioner Banzhaf moved to approve the request, seconded by Commissioner Jones. The
vote was unanimous to recommend for approval to City Council.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 7:30.
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Rae C idlow -Administrative Assistant